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Rafa Páez's avatar

That's fantastic! Such a great initiative. Thank you Jenny!

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Jenny Ouyang's avatar

Thanks Rafa!

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HS's avatar

This is truly fantastic. I’ve been reading some of your work and I am very impressed. My writing is usually Adderall fueled and done after 3-4 nights awake, so it’s nice to see so much attention to detail. Makes me think it was optimized by Mr. GPT… ;)

Anyways, it stood out to me that this took a week to build with Cursor. I am an “actual” programmer turned “vibe coder”. With that being said, I definitely feel like we could cut your build times down significantly by implementing some practices I use when vibing.

I would love to have a discussion with you about that; perhaps we could collaborate on an article or two about our findings. I haven’t ever attempted to optimize someone’s vibing before so I think it could be fun.

If you want to read about the basic components of my workflow, see my recent (and messy) article. It should give you an idea of how I am able to ship quickly.

Well wishes,

HS

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Jenny Ouyang's avatar

Thanks for sharing your thoughts!

And absolutely, most of my writing is optimized by various GPTs.

Loved the “actual” programmer bit, I guess I qualify too, since I work as a software engineer. Feel free to debate me on that one :)

Totally agree that Lovable and Bolt (and your whole vibe-coding approach) definitely help with shipping faster. Would be fun to compare workflows sometime!

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HS's avatar

So sorry if the “actual programmer” comment came off as disrespectful or a jab! I have no doubt you can write beautiful code without assistance.

You taking a week to ship most likely means you take the time that I typically don’t to genuinely baby the code with your own hands. Honestly, if I’ve vibe coded something and it is functional and pretty enough, I don’t have the patience that you do to peruse through it. I “actually code” integrations and fixes. That’s really it. I’ve forgotten how to do the most important things in languages I’ve truly loved due to vibing.

I refuse to debate you on anything and I trust you fully! You’re likely a far more talented engineer than I am — I work in finance primarily I just ship SaaS for myself or to sell and have a startup that requires me to program.

Let’s compare workflows sometime for sure or just have a chat! Maybe if we get along we can build something and make some money.

Let me know if I can send out a DM!

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Jenny Ouyang's avatar

Absolutely no offense taken at all! I really appreciate the thoughtful message!

Your comment didn’t come across as disrespectful in the slightest. Honestly, it sounds like you’ve got a super efficient, pragmatic approach that gets results, and I admire that. I totally get the “vibe coding” thing, sometimes it’s about momentum and trusting your instincts to move fast, especially when you’re juggling multiple roles like running a startup.

Would love to compare workflows or just geek out over tools, approaches, and whatever else we’re building. Saw that you’ve already sent me a DM. Definitely down to chat and maybe even collaborate if the vibes align!

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HS's avatar

Okay, good. Glad I didn’t accidentally misstep. And, absolutely! I’ll shoot you a DM back ASAP. Would love to geek out as well!

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Tom's avatar

Kudos

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Jenny Ouyang's avatar

Thanks :)

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